About
RICS School of Built Environment a Real Estate
Industry focussed Institute only of its kind in India catering in providing MBA
in Construction Project Management, Real Estate and Infrastructures Management.
It was being created by Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors, London and with
association to Amity University, Noida for initiating professionalism in Indian
Construction/Real Estate Industry and create demand for professionals, launched
in 2013.
Very soon the institute gained popularity in India,
and within three years it expanded towards Mumbai Campus and future plans for
Bangalore Campuses also. Amity only provides Administration, Infrastructure, and
MBA degree. RICS-SBE have their own Course Curriculum, Industry Experienced
Faculties, Management, Placement Team etc. And students get a gateway to MRICS
and FRICS through SRICS certification from RICS-SBE. The general governing and
management council of institute is from RICS-South East Asia.
Marketing & Admissions
RICS-SBE Marketed itself as an Industry Oriented
Institute providing various MBA courses, making students industry ready and the
major promise of providing assured placement opportunities (generally marketed
as a guarantee). There are several advertisements all over Facebook, News
Papers etc. Various Webinars to brainstorm and attract students. In Initial two
years’ even incentives were given to first two batch students for bringing
admissions for next batches, the numbers grew and initial placement reports of
first two batches made a huge admission success for the Institute.
Through Intensive marketing and continuously calling
targeted students across the country, Institute keeps Admission slots starting from
December till June-July or till their expected number of admissions are
achieved, at an average two to three slots are kept every month for Admissions.
Students are required to sit for a general MAT based
written test which is just a formality, then write a statement of purpose,
followed by an interview by panels comprising of RICS-SBE Faculties and Management
Staffs, generally they ask general civil questions and check if they can place
a candidate after two years and select at the most 80-90% of applicants.
- Initially first batch in 2013 was of 35 students for CPM (approx.)
- Then in 2014 it was 80 student batch (approx.)
- Third batch of 2015 was raised to 232 students,
- Fourth batch of 2016 reported tremendous response of 450 students through placement reports of Second batch, and especially by mouth of word from present students and intense marketing.
- Upcoming fifth batch of 2017 may rise to 600-800 for Noida, and maybe a 150-200 odd for Mumbai Campus.
Now the target seems not to produce quality students
oriented to industry requirements, but to attain as much admissions as
possible, institute in current scenario seems incapable of handling and
producing quality post graduates and ofcourse better placement opportunities is
a major incapability, anyone reading the post till last would agree.
Course Curriculum
All the subject at RICS-SBE are theoretical, all the
teachings are done in class with negligible once a semester on site visits as practical’s,
however there are dozens of self-application projects mandatory for students
to be done in each subject that makes the students to learns all theoretical
things by self-application.
Most of the faculties are out standing with high
industry experience for various subjects, but the strength of students getting
admitted is increasing so fast that only 1 good faculty in 3 can be
approximated for each subject. It is fate of student to get a good faculty or a
bad one.
A general two-line overview to various subjects taught
at RICS SBE.
Accounting for Built
Environment 👍
A CBSE’s 11th and
12th Commerce subject introduced to MBA graduates for general
understanding of accounting aspects.
Construction and Built
Environment 👎
A subject just to review
various Construction and Real Estate Industry Reports from agencies like KPMG,
Mckinsey etc. Poorly taught and just a self-understanding curriculum.
Construction Economics 👍
A very well defined subject
covering Management Economics from Construction Industry point of view, very
well taught and highly useful in Project Management.
Construction Materials,
Methods and Technology 1 & 2 👎
Most of the part is a
revised version of what is being taught at different universities to civil
engineering graduates, remaining part needs high order of explanation from
faculties which is left to students for self-understanding.
Design Management and
Pre-Construction Planning 👍
Another appropriate subject
well defined and taught by good faculties for Pre- Construction and value
engineering related objectives of construction projects.
Management Science for Built
Environment 👎
A total theoretical subject,
read books, understand self, don’t expect much from faculties.
Principles of Real Estate
Development 👍
Subject very interesting to
understand the gist of real estate industry, taught in appropriate practical
example sharing way.
Services for Built
Environment 1 & 2 👍
Highly informative subject,
covers each and every aspect of Services. A very experienced faculty for lucky
students, rest students in hands of self-learning concept.
Stakeholder Management for
Built Environment Sector 👍
The subject gives in depth
understanding to Stakeholder Management, However the subject is stretched too
much in theories and histories. Taught by faculty with hands-on experience to
subject.
Financial Management for
Built Environment 👍
The subject
gives knowledge of financial aspects in general as in any general MBA course.
Research Methods for
Construction 👎
A subject derived from
statistical courseware of general MBA’s customised for construction field,
totally oriented for students wanting to pursue career in research which is very
little. Mostly course is about learning big-big formulas and applying them on
data sets.
Construction Cost Management 👍
A very well defined subject
covering Quantity Estimation and Costing elements of Construction Industry,
very well taught and highly useful in Project Management and Quantity Surveying.
Computer Applications in
Construction Management 👎
Teaching only MS Excel and
MS Project with un professional trainers resulted in self-learning conditions
for students through online mediums.
Construction Project
Planning and Control 👎
The 60-70% of course ware
revises from civil engineering aspects and the rest 4-5 topics are new towards
project management. The software part of subject to be covered is left to other
subjects.
Marketing Management for
Built Environment Sector 👎
A total theoretical subject,
read books, understand self, don’t expect much from faculties apart from
examples.
Building Information Modelling
for Built Environment 👍
An innovative subject Aims
to covering the new BIM technology in industry, covers all the aspects till 5D
and hands on lab practicals for enhanced learning.
Construction Contracts 👍
Very necessary subject for
Construction Professionals, course is versatile includes international aspects
too, taught by faculties having experience in handling such areas.
Practical Aspects of Project
Management Software 👎
Teaching only Primavera by
general faculties and no special trainers resulted in self-learning conditions for
students through online mediums.
Quality, Health, Safety and
Environment Management 👎
Such a subject should be
practical oriented and what is offered is to read IS standards and theories.
Risk Management in
Construction 👍
The subject is innovative,
taught by experienced experience sharing faculty, the objectives are attained
to equip students for risk management.
Strategic Management and
Entrepreneurship for Built Environment 👎
General MBA teaching, less
oriented to construction industry, mostly a bouncer for students even to
understand the objectives of the subject, though the entrepreneurship part is
better half of curriculum.
Sustainable Practices for
Built Environment 👍
Highly informative subject,
covers each and every aspect of bringing sustainability to projects. Practical
experience share etc. A very experienced faculty for lucky students, rest
students in hands of self-learning concept.
Advanced Concepts in Project
Management 👎
A summation of all other
subjects, totally not necessary, taught in worst possible manner.
Dispute Avoidance and
Resolution Systems in Projects 👍
Very necessary subject for
Construction Professionals, course is versatile includes international aspects
too, taught by faculties having experience in handling such areas.
Ethics and Leadership for
Built Environment 👎
Total waste of time, just to
teach students what is right and wrong in general sense.
Human Resource Management
for Built Environment 👍
In depth understanding of
each and every aspect of HR, though theoretical but once understood students
can link things easily in their professional career.
Laws and Regulations in Built Environment 👍
Fully Theoretical, less
linked to Construction Industry more into Company Laws and Case Studies.
Lean Practices in
Construction Projects 👎
Purely theoretical subject
defining various lean principles, students have to read on their own, the
subject is very good, informative and applicable directly to industry, but
lacks good experienced faculty having hands-on experience in Lean and practical
teachings.
Procurement and Supply Chain
Management 👍
A very important learning
required for construction projects, taught in theoretical ways with certain
practical conditions, though helpful in professional life.
Professional Writing for
Built Environment 👎
The subject aims to prepare
DPR’s, Feasibility Reports etc. everything is done in a haphazard way,
resulting in no or little applicability.
Field Applications of
Project Management 👎
Highest weighted subject
aimed to work towards improvement in Construction Project through application
of 2 years of learnings by students, though 70-80% students are doing copy
paste and just theoretical ways of fulfilling minimum requirements.
Summer Internship 👍
For batch three (2015-17)
Most of the students got internships as per CGPA’s till semester 2 or general
interviews by some organisations, overall good organisations participated; but
the projects and internship exposure was solely dependent on Organisations, The
BD Team discussing roles with organisation only forced students irrespective of
interest of student in a specific field of construction industry and project
student would be allotted to get knowledge on. The target of BD team was to complete
the number of students selected in any organisation that’s it. Generally, only
10-20% of the students got paid some amount in internships.
General Issues
- There is no forum for students to raise their issues anonymously.
- Any student who raises issues in front of management or on social media is immediately curbed and he has to face the consequences till his entire course duration.
- Management forces various activities on students irrespective of their will and need, and the activities are of worst level, special classes are allotted to such activities which is just waste of time.
- The course and working on the academic sides are to be audited by RICS London body, however for reviewing by the RICS, London team the reviews are taken only by the students who would speak in favour to get the things approved.
- The general class and schedule management of institutions working is totally unappropriated, students have to waste time and energy to follow the improperly scheduled classes.
Continuous Evaluation
- There are rules made for continuous evaluation for every project, assignment, quiz etc. but out of 40-45 subjects not more than 5-10 subject in charges followed such schemes; and marks given at the end of semester seems unjustifiable for those who actually had applied some efforts.
- Most of the faculties gave marks not on the basis of performance in tests or projects but on the basis of semester first results and on the basis of buttering thing. And this went on for the remaining semesters.
- Some subjects are taught by different teachers, and they have different mind-set for evaluating students, in such cases the deserving and performing students are left to remorse on what they get on their performance at the end of semester.
- Different faculties evaluating for same subject have different benchmarks for awarding of marks, However Amity marking system is relative and hard work of students under faculty having strict marking schemes is wasted when compared to marks awarded by other faculties.
Examination
- Institute teaches 100% with a broad scope towards theory/practical application/projects etc. what they ask in examination is mostly theoretical questions, and that too obvious ones.
- Some of the incompetent faculties give certain important questions before exams that can be found directly into exam papers.
- It can be seen to a large ratio that those who can memorise a lot of things can mug up slides and can write as it is in exams, rather at MBA level their should be nothing from slides, but the application of whatever taught through slides.
- There is at least a 10% set of students cheating in exams through cheats, mobiles etc.; institution being already informed on this has taken negligible steps towards improving their ETHICS.
- It is generally assumed that examination copies are checked anonymously, However there are enough hints by faculties that student names are not removed from exam copies, creating scene of biased checking.
Amity Things
Amity being the degree and infrastructure provider,
the base university guidelines apply to RICS-SBE too, as below.
Attendance
Strict 75% attendance rule
for getting eligible for sitting in exams. However certain students having
genuine medical reasons should be omitted.
Behavioural Aspects of Built
Environment 1, 2 & 3 👎
This is the subject
mandatory by University for every course, which is nothing but what a student
already knows with certain fancy terms, mostly not applicable for professional
life.
Business Communication for
Built Environment 1, 2 & 3 👎
This is the subject
mandatory by University for every course, the general communication and English
already known by most of the students from studies in school and during
engineering.
Foreign Language 👎
This is the subject
mandatory by University for every course, students have to choose from set of
3-4 options of foreign languages, which are taught to very basic level that too
by mostly worst faculties.
Main Attraction - the Placement
Past Records Overview
The reports shown on website for first and second
batch can be taken 80% correct, and the reason for this can be small batch size
only. However, the report of third batch’s placement available on institutes
webpage can be judged by reading the post further.
Pre Activities
The activities for preparing
for placements can be summed up as:
- Site visits, once a semester that is the industry exposure.
- Industry professionals giving guest lectures, and their frequency increasing near to placements, most items discussed in guest lectures are already known to students.
- Personality Development session by external tutor, 50% new things rest already known things, as well as whatever taught is highly un-utilised in Interviews of construction companies.
- Mock GD, ok to have but what company looks upon in real GD is never known, sometimes a person who never speaks in GD gets selected.
- Mock Interview, highly technical(civil) only, totally inappropriate for real company interviews.
- Practice Tests, mostly home based and have ratio for marks in ranking of students for placements so full cheating is being done, as well as it doesn’t seem required preparing for interviews.
Eligibility
- For batch of 2015 i.e. third batch the general eligibility was kept as 6 CGPA, summing up to approx. of 190 students out of 232 under School of Construction.
- And once the Institute felt themselves incapable for placing all students they kept another criterion of not including students having 6 CGPA or higher with a backlog.
- However, in certain organisations Institute made to seat some students having CGPA less than 6.0, the general perspective should be no matter what condition arises from company side the Institute shall have a single rule for everyone.
- The calculation of placement score based on engineering score is also not moderated as in certain universities the CGPA is calculated from last two semesters for some it is average of all semesters, as such students get inappropriately calculated scores.
The process
The initiation of placement process is to prepare a
placement score with following ratios:
Percent of Tenth, XII, B.E
|
20.0%
|
Attendance
|
5.0%
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Participation in placement sessions and
activities
|
5.0%
|
MBA CGPA
|
30.0%
|
Internship Marks
|
10.0%
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GD Marks
|
10.0%
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Mock Interviews
|
20.0%
|
Experience is an additional criterion in shortlisting for
different companies.
Once the Business Development Team confirms with
company about salary, role, location etc. The Posting is done on separate
placement portal and students are informed through email and WhatsApp.
Students interested can apply on portal, once deadline
to apply is over, all interested candidates are arranged and as per ranking of
placement scores the data is sent to organisation, Organisation shortlists and
calls students for interview in college or their offices.
Either the results are declared immediate after
interview or in a week or month, or never.
Company Overview 2017 batch
First of all here is the list of companies that were
listed in front of students to show their interests:
👍 Shows companies which came
and took students
👎 Shows companies which
either didn’t came or didn’t took students after interviewing.
✋Shows companies which took students but reduced
package or other issues.
👍
|
ASST MANAGER – QS
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VEADHIK COST CONSULTANTS PVT LTD
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👍
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ARCHITECTURE
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PERKINS + WILL
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👎
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ASSISTANT QS
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DRAKE AND SCULL
|
👍
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ASSOCIATE
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EVERSENDAI DUBAI
|
👎
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BD
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CAPRICOT
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👍
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BD FOR PM and QS
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CBRE
|
✋
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BUSINESS ANALYST, ASSET MANAGEMENT
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RADIANT PROPERTY MANAGEMENT
|
👎
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CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, CO-ORDINATION, BD
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COPIA PROJECTS PVT LTD
|
👎
|
CONTRACTS
|
SIMITRI PMC
|
👎
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CONTRACTS MANAGEMENT
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ARVIND SMART SPACES LTD
|
👎
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CPM
|
OMAN SHAPOORJI COMPANY LLC (SHAPOORJI PALLINJI
GROUP)
|
👎
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DESIGN AND SUPERVISION CONSULTANT FOR HIGHWAY
SECTOR
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PROMARG CONSULTANTS PRIVATE LIMITED
|
👎
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DESIGN COORDINATOR
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SYNERGY PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PVT. LTD
|
👍
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ENGINEER--QS & SITE EXECUTION
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PRESTIGE GROUP
|
👎
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ENGINEERS
|
RAUNAK GROUP.
|
👎
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GRADUATE ENGINEER
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SNC LAVALIN
|
👎
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JUNIOR ENGINEERS
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NARANG REALTY
|
👎
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MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
|
RELIANCE BRANDS LIMITED
|
👎
|
MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
|
ARVIND SMART SPACES LTD
|
👎
|
MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
|
IOT INFRASTRUCTURE & ENERGY
|
👎
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MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
|
SANDERSON GROUP INDIA
|
👎
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MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
|
ASHOKA BUILDCON
|
👎
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MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
|
PRICEWATERHOUSECOOPERS PVT. LTD
|
👍
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MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
|
L & W CONSTRUCTION PRIVATE LIMITED
|
👍
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MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
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WRENCH SOLUTIONS P LTD
|
👎
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MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
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SYNEFRA INFRASTRUCTURES LTD
|
👍
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MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
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SHAPOOR PALLONJI ENGINEERING & CONSTRUCTION
|
👍
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MANAGER
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SCIENTIFIC AGE RESEARCH & TESTING LAB PVT.
LTD.
|
👎
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MEP QS-MECHANICAL
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KAJIMA INDIA PVT. LTD.
|
👎
|
MT
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ASSET HOMES PVT LTD
|
👎
|
MT
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INNOVEST ADVISORY SERVICES PVT LTD
|
👎
|
MT
|
HIGHBAR TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED(HCC)
|
👎
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ONLY ARCHITECT
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L & W CONSTRUCTION PRIVATE LIMITED
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👎
|
PM
|
ARCADIS
|
👎
|
PM
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HERITAGE GROUP
|
👎
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PM
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RAHEJA DEVELOPERS
|
👎
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PM
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TVASTAR ENGINEERING SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD.
|
👍
|
PM
|
CRACKNELL
|
👎
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PM (ONLY EXPERIENCE)
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EMINENCE GROUP
|
👎
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PM AND QS
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BHARAT ROAD NETWORK LTD
|
👎
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PM AND QS
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BOMBAY REALTY
|
👎
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PM AND QS
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HOCHTIEF (INDIA) PRIVATE LIMITED
|
👎
|
PM AND QS
|
HAMAD BIN KHALID CONTRACTING COMPANY (HBK
CONTRACTING COMPANY)
|
👎
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PM AND QS
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SECON PRIVATE LIMITED, BANGALORE
|
👎
|
PM AND QS
|
CAPACIT'E INFRAPROJECTS LIMITED (CIL)
|
👎
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PM AND QS
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SHAPOORJI PALLONJI INTERNATIONAL FZE
|
👍
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PM AND QS
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LEIGHTON (NOW CIMIC GROUP)
|
👎
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PROJECT ENGINEER
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VCONSTRUCT PVT. LTD
|
👍
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PROJECT EXECUTIVE COMMERCIAL
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EPTISA
|
👎
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PROJECT MANAGEMENT
|
VOYANTS SOLUTIONS PVT LTD
|
👎
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PROJECT MANAGEMENT
|
SHREE PADMAVATI ENGINEERS INDIA PVT LTD
|
👎
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PROJECT MANAGEMENT
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RARE TOWNSHIP PVT. LTD
|
👍
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PROJECT MANAGEMENT
|
OMAXE LTD
|
👎
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PROJECT MANAGEMENT
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HINDCON CHEMICALS LTD.
|
👎
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PROJECT MANAGEMENT
|
EMAAR MGF LAND LIMITED
|
👎
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PROJECT MANAGEMENT
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SRS INVESTMENT ADVISORS LLP
|
👎
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PROJECT MANAGEMENT
|
CUSHMAN & WAKEFIELD INDIA PVT. LTD
|
👎
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PURCHASE MANAGER/JR. ENGINEER
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KANAKIA SPACES PVT LTD
|
👍
|
QS
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FAITHFUL+GOULD
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👍
|
QS
|
ITD CEMENTATION INDIA LIMITED
|
👎
|
QS
|
AARVEE ASSOCIATES ARCHITECTS ENGINEERS &
CONSULTANTS PVT. LTD.
|
✋
|
QS
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ELEGANZ INTERIOR PVT LTD
|
👎
|
QS
|
AJMERA REALTY & INFRA INDIA LTD
|
👎
|
QS
|
ASTAD- QATAR
|
✋
|
QS
|
3EG GROUP
|
👎
|
QS
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HAVELOCK AHI W.L.L (BAHRAIN)
|
👍
|
QS
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AECOM
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👎
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QS/Planning/Execution
|
Galfar SAOG, Oman
|
👍
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QUANTITY SURVEYOR COST PLANNING
|
NABIH ELIAS AZZAM & PARTNERS – DUBAI BR
|
👎
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RAIL ALIGNMENT ENGINERS
|
SMEC INDIA PVT. LTD (SNOWY MOUNTAINS ENGINEERING CORPORATION)
|
👎
|
REVIT AND PRIMAVERA FOR BOTH CIVIL AND MEP AND QS
(EXPERIENCE STUDENT FOR QS)
|
S&T INTERIORS AND CONTRACTING
|
👍
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RTA
|
RICS
|
👎
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SALES OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT
|
UNIVERSAL CONSTRUCTION MACHINERY & EQUIPMENT
PRIVATE LIMITED
|
👎
|
SENIOR ENGINEERS
|
NARANG REALTY
|
👎
|
SITE MANAGEMENT
|
SUCG INDIA INFRASTRUCTURE PRIVATE LIMITED
|
👎
|
TECHNICAL SALES
|
KAYOMA TPL
|
👎
|
TECHNICAL TRAINING COORDINATOR
|
V T PALRESHA & CO PRIVATE LIMITED
|
👎 |
TECHNO COMMERCIAL OFFICER
|
ASIAN PAINTS PVT. LTD.
|
👎
|
TRAINEE
|
BAKER WILKINS & SMITH
|
👎
|
VALUATION
|
RBSA VALUATION ADVISORS LLP
|
👎
|
VALUATIONS AND BD
|
BLACK OLIVE VENTURES PVT. LTD
|
👍
|
ASSISTANT COST MANAGER
|
TURNER & TOWNSEND PVT LTD
|
👎
|
ASSISTANT MANAGER – CONSULTING
|
JLL
|
👍
|
ASSISTANT PROJECT MANAGER
|
TURNER & TOWNSEND PVT LTD
|
👍
|
ASSISTANT QUANTITY SURVEYOR
|
ARCADIS
|
👍
|
ENGINEERS
|
AL NABOODAH
|
👎
|
MANAGEMENT TRAINEE
|
SOBHA DUBAI
|
👍
|
MT
|
MACE PROJECT AND COST MANAGEMENT PVT. LTD.
|
👍
|
PROJECT MANAGEMENT
|
KNIGHT FRANK
|
👍
|
TRAINEE
|
TATA HOUSING
|
The Downfall of third i.e. 2015 batch placements
- Major portion (Approx. 50% plus) of Domestic companies from the list above offered 3-4 lpa.
- Approx. 20% Domestic companies from the list above offered 4-5 lpa.
- Approx. 10% Domestic companies from the list above offered 5-6 lpa.
- Approx. 10% International companies from the list above offered 4000-5000 AED.
- Approx. 10% International companies from the list above offered 5000 plus AED.
Major Placement Issues
- IMP: Students get only 5 chances for attending any interview of their choice, However the BD team shows vacancy of company atleast just double of actual requirement, as such students get trapped in consuming their chances. These rule was applicable in entire duration of placement, but when situations worsened it was forgotten kind of, but this rule made huge effect on decisions of students from the beginning of process in selecting companies.
- Some companies after selecting students either refused to take students, or reduced their package agreed upon.
- As said above Most of the companies offered low packages, students couldn’t apply for such companies, Students were forced to apply for such companies or remain unplaced in the placement process.
- Most of the experienced people (70-80% plus) had higher salaries two years ago to what has been offered by companies now in placement process.
- Nothing promised by Marketing team during and before admissions is being provided with respect to package.
- For first two batches placement processes were mostly completed by December of the year i.e. by third semester. However, for third batch placement process started by 12th December 2016 and is still incomplete, either most students took whatever was offered i.e. less package, uninterested role, low state company; or students searched jobs on their own.
- The placement update report given on Institute website somehow doesn’t match with what has been discussed above, and it can be assuredly said by students that whatever discussed above is all what they saw during their 2 years and the placement process.
- The placement update report given on Institute website also lists the reasons for such a reduced trend being caused by Demonetisation, RERA, GST, curbing of black money etc. etc. Up to a certain extend the same can be true, but Students have seen other institutes placing students with same profile in same companies with higher packages, as well as many major and better companies selected students from other institutes, but Business Development team of institute couldn’t bring them.
- The Business Development team at Institute which interacts to organisation majorly lacks any member from construction background, as such they are incompetent to interact in better manner for student’s interests etc. and this incompetency resulted in some roles being given of BD/Sales.
- For sake of placing students, it seems that the organisations were requested to take more students than required and their offers were accepted at reduced packages, simply if you are taking 3 students at 6lpa, take 6 students at 3lpa.
- Some of students (approx. 10-20) were placed through reference of experienced student, not with efforts from institution as marketed.
- The overall average package calculated in Placement report of institute can never be understood and justified with the facts seen by students and discussed above.
- The BD team also blames student’s incompetent for not getting good packages in good organisations, the reason viable for this could be at times the BD team might have forced organisations to take students irrespective of their will, by so much requests organisations can interview students and irrespective of actual things the organisations who don’t have requirement would definitely say students are not good.
- FACT: It was seen that Some of the toppers were placed on recommendation in organisation to save the name of Institution.
- The threat kind of thing Institutions Placement team offered to students while facing their own incompetency was showing of disclaimers being put up on website instantly when they felt they are incompetent. However, the disclaimers as per website history are as below:
Disclaimer
says:
As Today:
RICS SBE does not guarantee
job placements to the students or alumni. While we have had 100% placement
record in the past however past performance is no guarantee to a repeat
performance in the future. It is our endeavour to provide job interview
opportunities to all eligible students however the selection of the student is
dependent on their interview performance and acceptability by the prospective employer.
RICS SBE shall not be responsible for any disagreements or disputes arising
between the employer and the employee (who is an RICS SBE alumni).”
As During admissions of
Third Batch:
There was no Disclaimer
Present on Website as per the website history archives.
Overall Value and Opting for NICMAR
As in India Only two institutions provide Core
Construction Industry related Post Graduate programmes, other institutions
offering Infrastructure curriculums,
Students now majorly chooses between RICSSBE and
NICMAR, the current batch’s scenario for RICS has already been discussed above,
as author belongs to above discussed institute, it would not be appropriate to
comment on things at NICMAR, the readers can decide on their own inferences about
both the institutions,
However just to take a good academic knowledge and an
MBA degree from AMITY and SRICS certification as a gateway to MRICS and FRICS
titles, one can surely join RICS School of Built Environment. And as far as
placements are considered people guarantee you placement during marketing and
admissions with condition to just perform in better CGPA’s, But as a matter
of fact the institute doesn’t have any say in organisations selection process
for the EQUITY about students with reference to CGPA’s, skills, experience or
so, Major ratio of high percent and experienced students are left
unsatisfied with the placement scenario; so your performance or experience is
never a guarantee for good placement from RICS-SBE.
Overall The objective of institute to bring professionalism in Indian Construction Industry can only be achieved through producing quality professionals in appropriate numbers by proper admission criteria’s and proper alignment of academics as well as Business development team to the need of Construction Sector not general management scenario. And ofcourse by delivering whatever promised, no matter what/how the scenario changes, as industry works on commitments not disclaimers.
Overall The objective of institute to bring professionalism in Indian Construction Industry can only be achieved through producing quality professionals in appropriate numbers by proper admission criteria’s and proper alignment of academics as well as Business development team to the need of Construction Sector not general management scenario. And ofcourse by delivering whatever promised, no matter what/how the scenario changes, as industry works on commitments not disclaimers.
About Author
The author is a neutral student having a good CGPA,
satisfied by the kind of exposure and most of the learnings gained on academic
side of Institution, but feels cheated by institution on placement scenario,
and wants to share the things as seen through the duration of MBA programme.
Everything discussed above in not in response to any action towards author, but
for general review for everyone and in best knowledge and observance of author.
Further Request for readers…
Readers can comment their views; about whatever they
think positive or negative;
However, author requests the BD/Marketing team of RICS-SBE
to not to curb such forums on social media, and their focus shall be on
improving the Institution rather than damage controlling and curbing the real
views of students
Author would try to reply comments/queries on weekly
basis if required.
Very true. Some of the subjects and faculties here are amazing but the course is disturbed by the RICS India intrusion, be it in form of BD team or Business model based expansion.
ReplyDeleteThis is a proper MBA course very different from what NICMAR offers. The industry hasn't matured in India to utilize the talent trained at RICS SBE.
These people must change their BD Team and give all the eligible students a chance to secure good jobs to support their expansion in this country.
Funny thing is they have also promised placements abroad. But these people couldn't bring any company from countries where RICS has a stronghold as an international brand. If the conditions are bad in India they should be able to place students abroad.
Whoever has written this article, you have nailed it. We could see the last 2 years of betrayal life in your exceedingly well framed article. It has received accolades from all the corners of the country. But many of them feel depressed by the amount of information regarding the placements section. This information available about the placements is very less and they are expecting you to mention about some companies which betrayed students.
ReplyDeleteThe author would urge people from companies who were cheated both by RICS's BD team and companies to please share their bitter experiences...
Deletethey could share their pain in better way...
Name of the school is of British but we can sense the Indianness in the style of Management.
ReplyDeleteDoing business in the name of education. Students now feel that they had put their career in the hands of businessman rather than educationalists.
When there is no particular forum to discuss the issues of students, this has come like rain in the desert. This isn't a rain, it's a thunder storm with lightning.
ReplyDeleteAuthor thanks people for appreciation, hope this rain would be fruitful for upcoming students also.
DeleteKeep Sharing.
There was a spearhead for the School who organises webinars, links RICS videos with RICS SBE pages, attacks the students who expresses their views on social media.
ReplyDeleteWhere has he gone?
Speaking something in english doesn't make you great. Delivering your words makes you so.
Talk your walk.
Walk your talk.
It's a very sad moment that RICS which has more than century track record has to face humiliation because of some of the money minded people.
ReplyDeleteMany students have joined RICS SBE thinking that RICS and RICS SBE are one and the same.
If they have reallt opened the school for development of construction sector in the country, why do you increase the tuition fee every year, what is the motive behind it?
To achieve the break even as early as possible?
It is as simple to understand, Indian Business mind and to compete with other 33+ year old institute with just number of students and not with quality.
DeleteThere is no relationship that can be drawn from the final semester results of 2015 batch.
ReplyDeleteCan you explain the reasons for this?
You no more love the students as they have paid all the 4 semester fees?
Feel like monarchy and there is no one to question you?
To reduce the CGPA of students and make them ineligible for placements?
Students are incapable?
What is the strategy behind this move?
As far as author's understanding The institute is incapable for placements and they know it, and as of date they have nothing to offer for remaining students(and they offered mostly nothing to others also)
Deleteauthor also feels some manipulations happens in results...As such most of the students are below 6 cgpa in final results...And the transparency is so great that you cant even recheck or see your exam copies back(amity rules).
It is a very good blog. I am one such student who was SELECTED in NICMAR but instead chose to go with RICS SBE. It is a great course, definitely one of the best course in India. But what is the point of getting the education which the companies aren't ready to utilize.
ReplyDeleteI also feel cheated by the placement team. Their cons;
- Couldn't deliver even half of their promises.
- Not enough chance given to many bright students.
- Cant attract good company despite of talented students.
- Keeps pressurizing students.
- Not good assessment of student capabilities.
They have to take some decision fast or they will damage the RICS brand name around the world.
As of now blog has been read or viewed by 430+ readers,
ReplyDeleteI urge people to share this blog, not just to increase view counts but to make the genuine facts reach alumni's as well as current and upcoming students to analyse their institutes current scenario or make right decisions for themselves.
One of the prestigious companies from Gulf (Dubai) required more number of female students than the male students.
ReplyDeleteThen the School has allowed the female students with less than 6 CGPA and made sure that most number of female students get selected.
The organization requirement of female students doesn't mean you can send anyone to that company. If these students doesn't perform well, it's a setback to them, it's a setback to SBE and it's a huge setback for alumni who want to get into that organization at some point of time in the future.
There were bunch of extra ordinary students who were unplaced at that time.
Rule is rule.
Whether it's Queen Elizabeth or Students.
Is that company the Al-Naoodah?
DeleteIts sad how this people keep changing rules as per their convenience.
ReplyDeleteFirst there was 5 chance per student rule then it was let go.
If all the students had applied earlier without the fear of missing out good opportunities the names of selected students would be very different.
Some of them were selected because other deserving candidates waited for better opportunity. We didnt know they arent capable of bringing better opportunities.
They have let go of backlog rule, of below 6 rule at occasions to get their percentage correct.
Same with some of the last arriving companies which were called here for mass recruiting. To show better placement statistics.
There is a bigger question that how many of them will be able to retain job after 1 year.
Job retaining?
DeleteThere are many students who got selected into a company in chennai. They were offered some 4 lakhs package before the interview, but when the selected students went to the office, there was no office, it was a residential building and climax is that they were offered 15000 per month. Spent 15 lakhs for MBA and getting 15000 per month. After negotiation, they are now offering 18500 per month. There was mass departure. The students got into that company are experienced and most eligible, they are idle now.
first of all well done admin you just have written down what exactly is the situation in the entire school very accurately...i feel more pity for CPM and infrastructure mangement students..its the right time for us to raise our voices against the bad actually otherwise we will be a victim of this system just like the others or even worse can happen to the upcoming 2018 batch placements.
ReplyDeleteTHESE PEOPLE NEED TO REALISE WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO THE STUDENTS.
ITS THE HIGH TIME WE NEED TO STAND OTHERWISE JUNE 2018 WILL BE LIKE THE SAME OR EVEN WORSE
Alumni!
ReplyDeleteThe number of outgoing students of 2015 who attended the Farewell is very less which we can count on the finger tips. This shows how unsatisfied and frustrated they are with their placements.
Most of the Management institutes including NICMAR has been surviving and excelling with the assistance of the Alumni!
I'm not sure how far this School would go.
What we can call is debacle like Tech bubble.
Any Comments with respect to the process regarding placements, academics, administration etc., or any other facts are always welcome for benefit to coming batches and expressing views, However commenting personally to any faculty member or other staff shall not be motive of this blog titled 'Genuine'.
ReplyDeleteTheir should be review and talks about institute and its processes not about any specific person for betterment of OUR Institute only.
Author would apologise for comments by some readers about a person specifically, being the person most equitable and just member in entire RICS Family.
However such comments and blog shall always be handled anonymously because people have seen consequences of expressing their views openly.
Good one. I belong to the second batch. You guys need to get in touch with your alumni for opportunities.
ReplyDeleteCould you pls provide your email id sir ?
DeleteA very knowledgeble, want to know more about rics sbe..thanku
ReplyDeleteAny Doubts/comments are still welcome and to be answered.
ReplyDeleteThen the question is should we take admission or not ? Or should try other institutions like MIT Arts,Design & Technology University pune it has relatively low fees like 3-4 lacs for 2 years? What should we do?
ReplyDeletePlease give a review about the MBA in Real estate and Urban infra too.
ReplyDeleteDo you think the scenario for the Mumbai campus will be same??? or worse??
ReplyDeletei have a similar question... then what is the better option for a civil engineer passout? please let us know author. thank you.
DeletePeople may try to opt for Mumbai campus, as it is their initial days, and the number of intake is less, they might attract some good opportunities. It is also believed that they are decreasing number of intakes at Noida campus too, so that they can serve as per their capacity.
DeleteAs per current scenario, The placements of fourth batch at Noida campus are also not appropriate as per the other competent institute in industry.
ReplyDeletePlease inform about summer placements in cpm mumbai batch.. whether it gives advantage in final placement...And what would be the scenario for placements in 2020?
DeleteWhat is the current status of placement or the companies visited in 2020? How corona impacted the placement/lives of various engg. graduates.
DeleteAlso, help me with an answer that what is the condition of those candidate who has an experience of 3-4 in industry.
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ReplyDeleteCurrently I am pursuing MBA in CPM in Mumbai, even some of the students facing the same problem. As we got the results three days ago we found that we are biased. There is no such transference in evaluation. Some people are failed, some of them are not eligible. We don't know what is going on in the university. some of are lost hope and regretting that we took admission here.
ReplyDeleteHello Anonymous I have applied for Mumbai campus for 2019 admission. Can you help me regarding mumbai campus queries? Can we chat in mail? My mail address is smitshah96@gmail.com or +91 9825615335 in whatsapp?
DeleteHii I too want to join mba program in Rics but have certain questions about that ? Will it be fruitful or not investing such a huge amount . Please help 🙏 email :- saurabh.engineercivil@gmail.com
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ReplyDeleteWhat is placement scenario in 2018 pass out batch? What is the highest CTC? They mentioned in their broucher that Amity Mumbai is still not RICS Approved..is that true?
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What about quantity survey and construction economics course? Placement is bad for this also?
ReplyDeletePlease guide about placements for cpm in mumbai campus..
ReplyDeleteOK I have a question
ReplyDeleteWhy do they call you so frequently ,like it's scary actually the way they call and ask about my application form , I'm applying for next year i.e 2019 batch and I was a bit curious about the reviews because most of the review in quora are from the people from RICS SBE themselves so I don't know about the genuinity of it .
So I already applied for the Mumbai Campus and seeing the review for the main campus I'm so shocked , and it's really putting me into perspective about joining it now, considering the many backlashes RICS SBE is getting , it's a good review and I'm grateful that someone put out true review
Hello! Honestly, After reading this blog every idea I had to join RICSSBE just collapsed. Yes i did get continuous calls from the college. It was freaky. Thank you so much for this review! If you could also throw some light upon what (new-aspirants) should take a call on. If I have a choice between NICAMAR and RICS, Should I just go for NICMAR?
ReplyDeletePlease don't enrol here. The amount of money you will invest here can get you a degree from countries in Europe.
ReplyDeleteAn excellent article depicting the exact ground realities! But, who said there are "ONLY 2" institutes to choose from in India in core construction industry related programs. You have simply chosen to miss out the best institutes in PM education in India; Building Engineering Management Dept. At School of Planning and Architecture, Delhi and Construction Management Dept. of IIT, Delhi and Madras. BEM Dept. at SPA "was the first to start project mgmt. education in India in 1979". Indian PM industry is headed by BEM graduates in lead/key roles through market leader companies like: Space Matrix, JLL, Colliers, Mace, Volicon, Forum projects, Cushman, WSP, Nelson, Synergy etc. to name just a few. Coming to placements: This year we have mostly completed our Placement season in third semester itself, with packages ranging from 5.5 (Min) to 13 (Max) lpa. Coming to the cost, SPA charges 1 lakhs for the entire course and pays a stipend of 2 lakh, 72 th in form of Gate stipend (everyone gets is as You can not get into BEM without say, under 40 GATE rank, safe side) So, technically you are EARNING to study here!
ReplyDeleteI am really worried now , should one join RICS or not ???
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can anyone explain the scenerio of placements in noida campus for cpm course is it good to go with rics amity or not for 2020-22 batch.
ReplyDeleteHi author, Thanks for your wonderful blog. I was thinking of getting admission in Mumbai campus, but after reading reviews on quora and finally here, i think its best to drop the idea of getting admission here.
ReplyDeleteHello Bro I am in 3rd year of btech in civil engineering and I am thinking about to pursue mba from rics after the completion of btech is this is a good idea to pursue mba from rics please guide me.
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